5.8 Distinction Between the Person and the Presence of God


Chapter 5: Deception and Possession

from War On the Saints
by Jesse Penn-Lewis

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Jn. 14:23 π Acts 16:7 π Rom. 8:9 π Phlp. 1:19

The counterfeit of God in and with the believer, is the basis on which is built the whole after structure of possession through deception. Believers desire and expect God to be with, and in them. They expect God's presence with them, and this is counterfeited. They expect God to be in them as a Person, and evil spirits work to counterfeit the three Persons of the Trinity.

In order to understand the counterfeiting methods of evil spirits, we must distinguish between the Presence and the Person of God. The "Presence" as giving forth an influence, and the Person manifested as Father, Son, or Holy Spirit. Crudely put, it may be described as the difference between God as Light, and having light from God. God as Love, and having love from God. The one is the Person Himself in His nature, and the other the outshining, or giving forth of what He is.

The thought with many is that the Person of Christ is in them, but in truth, Christ as a Person is in no man. He dwells in believers by His Spirit - the Spirit of Christ ( Rom. 8:9 ), as they receive the "supply of the Spirit of Jesus." ( Phlp. 1:19 ; Acts 16:7 R.V.; top)

It is necessary also, to understand the teaching of the Scriptures on the Trinity, and the different attributes and work of each Person of the Trinity, to discern the counterfeiting work of the deceiver.

God the Father, as a Person, is in the highest heaven. His presence is manifested in men as the "Spirit of the Father." Christ the Son is in heaven as a Person, His presence in men is by His Spirit. The Holy Spirit, as the Spirit of the Father, and of the Son, is on earth in the Church, which is the Body of Christ; and manifests the Father or the Son, in, and to believers, as they are taught by Him to apprehend the Triune God. Hence Christ said "I will manifest Myself," to those who loved and obeyed Him; and later "We will come, and make our abode with him" ( Jn. 14:23; top ) i.e. , by the Holy Spirit to be given on the Day of Pentecost.

[5.7] How Evil Spirits Deceive - Column 1
[5.9] The Person of God in Heaven, His Presence on Earth by His Spirit
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